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	<title>Comments for Estée Klar</title>
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	<description>The Joy of Autism is about our journey with autism and our opinions about how society views it.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Return Home From Sri Lanka by Floortime Lite Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floortime Lite Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spend December in India - super fascinating 
Love the image you used here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spend December in India &#8211; super fascinating<br />
Love the image you used here</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Family Day Might I Ask: Just What Is A Family? by Melissa Harper</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2010/02/15/on-family-day-might-i-ask-just-what-is-a-family/comment-page-1/#comment-24557</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Estee,

What a wonderful blog post. I am doing a photographic project on this exact subject and you have summed it up perfectly. Family is what you make it and not what society tells you it its. Remembering to live and to love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Estee,</p>
<p>What a wonderful blog post. I am doing a photographic project on this exact subject and you have summed it up perfectly. Family is what you make it and not what society tells you it its. Remembering to live and to love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reflections On Our First Decade by Floortime Lite Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2012/01/11/reflections-of-our-first-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-24370</link>
		<dc:creator>Floortime Lite Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how I loved this post 
Thanks for your wonderful sensitive and honest writing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how I loved this post<br />
Thanks for your wonderful sensitive and honest writing</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s So Nice To Have This Time Together by Estee</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2011/12/29/its-so-nice-to-have-this-time-together/comment-page-1/#comment-24134</link>
		<dc:creator>Estee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks,Stephanie. Yes it makes sense and it&#039;s nice to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,Stephanie. Yes it makes sense and it&#8217;s nice to hear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s So Nice To Have This Time Together by Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2011/12/29/its-so-nice-to-have-this-time-together/comment-page-1/#comment-24132</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hardly seems like four years.  From before to now, and four years in between...

You&#039;ve grown so much in all the time that I&#039;ve known you, and even though changes have been gradual, they also seem so inevitable that it seems the peace has always been because it always would come to be.

Don&#039;t know if that makes any sense to anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It hardly seems like four years.  From before to now, and four years in between&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve grown so much in all the time that I&#8217;ve known you, and even though changes have been gradual, they also seem so inevitable that it seems the peace has always been because it always would come to be.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if that makes any sense to anyone else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Off To Sri Lanka Soon by Irene</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2012/01/07/off-to-sri-lanka-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-24110</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy your time -- it goes all too fast.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Off To Sri Lanka Soon by Alain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 00:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy your trip :)

Alain</description>
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<p>Alain</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep It Simple Over the Holidays by Arak</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2011/12/23/keep-it-simple-over-the-holidays/comment-page-1/#comment-23923</link>
		<dc:creator>Arak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often find myself asking the question: Why not buy stuff kids *like* rather than things that are supposed to be &quot;therapeutic&quot;? Shouldn&#039;t birthdays and Christmas be fun instead of *therapy*? Note to professionals and other people who say autistic kids don&#039;t enjoy their birthdays or Christmas: this may be why. 

Not including the noise and stress that often come with these occasions. Christmas is its own special brand of stressful for just about everyone, but a child&#039;s birthday should be fun by his or her standards. If those standards are a quiet day spinning a wheel on a toy car, then so be it! It&#039;s his or her day after all! Would anyone out there want to be dragged into something they absolutely *hate* doing on their birthday? No. That would be discourteous, wouldn&#039;t it? (Isn&#039;t there some sort of social rule about that? I&#039;m sure there is...)

A kid needs to just be a kid once in a while. From what I&#039;ve seen many autistic children are quite imaginative and don&#039;t often require the props (toys) that most kids need in order to help them imagine things or have fun. 

That&#039;s not to say that other children lack imagination: How many kids play with the boxes their toys come in more than the toys? I always think of Calvin from the &quot;Calvin and Hobbes&quot; comic strip with his transmogrifier (a big cardboard box). That&#039;s got to say something about kids and imagination! 

Which professional set the standard for play anyway?

Life for a kid should not be 24 hours of therapy a day. It should be fun at times... on his terms. Especially birthdays and holidays. Just my thoughts on this one. 

I love the quote: &quot;Our children come to us with a deep destiny — here again, some say spirit — that needs to be heard. It must be honored.” 

Their personalities, likes and dislikes must also be honoured, IMO. ALL children are human and humanity comes with individuality that must be honoured, nourished and respected if it is to thrive... a fact many people seem to neglect.

Just my thoughts. :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often find myself asking the question: Why not buy stuff kids *like* rather than things that are supposed to be &#8220;therapeutic&#8221;? Shouldn&#8217;t birthdays and Christmas be fun instead of *therapy*? Note to professionals and other people who say autistic kids don&#8217;t enjoy their birthdays or Christmas: this may be why. </p>
<p>Not including the noise and stress that often come with these occasions. Christmas is its own special brand of stressful for just about everyone, but a child&#8217;s birthday should be fun by his or her standards. If those standards are a quiet day spinning a wheel on a toy car, then so be it! It&#8217;s his or her day after all! Would anyone out there want to be dragged into something they absolutely *hate* doing on their birthday? No. That would be discourteous, wouldn&#8217;t it? (Isn&#8217;t there some sort of social rule about that? I&#8217;m sure there is&#8230;)</p>
<p>A kid needs to just be a kid once in a while. From what I&#8217;ve seen many autistic children are quite imaginative and don&#8217;t often require the props (toys) that most kids need in order to help them imagine things or have fun. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that other children lack imagination: How many kids play with the boxes their toys come in more than the toys? I always think of Calvin from the &#8220;Calvin and Hobbes&#8221; comic strip with his transmogrifier (a big cardboard box). That&#8217;s got to say something about kids and imagination! </p>
<p>Which professional set the standard for play anyway?</p>
<p>Life for a kid should not be 24 hours of therapy a day. It should be fun at times&#8230; on his terms. Especially birthdays and holidays. Just my thoughts on this one. </p>
<p>I love the quote: &#8220;Our children come to us with a deep destiny — here again, some say spirit — that needs to be heard. It must be honored.” </p>
<p>Their personalities, likes and dislikes must also be honoured, IMO. ALL children are human and humanity comes with individuality that must be honoured, nourished and respected if it is to thrive&#8230; a fact many people seem to neglect.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts. :^)</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s So Nice To Have This Time Together by kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope the new year brings you and Adam lots more sunshine and love and growing together -- Kristina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope the new year brings you and Adam lots more sunshine and love and growing together &#8212; Kristina</p>
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		<title>Comment on Part of the Network of Give and Take by Estee</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2011/12/18/part-of-the-network-of-give-and-take/comment-page-1/#comment-23840</link>
		<dc:creator>Estee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The person is way more important than these principles society wants us to follow.&quot; 

I couldn&#039;t agree more. Everyone must find their own pace and their own affinities. Adam and I like to get out, even if we are limited in some ways. We are trying to find our way into the community, which is not so easy. I spend hours every day writing to people, trying to find things for him to do, because he CAN do things and can&#039;t do other things, or the pace at which he can do things needs to be understood. 

I don&#039;t think it should be so difficult for autistic people and their families to have to find things to do, and contribute in some way. This may succeed or it may fail. Like all things, we have to try or else we do not know what either we enjoy, or what we are capable of doing.

Adam is also capable of understanding things which other people don&#039;t always believe he understands. All of a sudden, though, he may blurt out something (showing understanding) and people are surprised. He is capable of learning about other people. 

Anyway, we are in the process of asking where we are able to volunteer a little. I want to see how it goes. We had one nibble from an org in Toronto. I&#039;m hoping someone will want to give us a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The person is way more important than these principles society wants us to follow.&#8221; </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Everyone must find their own pace and their own affinities. Adam and I like to get out, even if we are limited in some ways. We are trying to find our way into the community, which is not so easy. I spend hours every day writing to people, trying to find things for him to do, because he CAN do things and can&#8217;t do other things, or the pace at which he can do things needs to be understood. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it should be so difficult for autistic people and their families to have to find things to do, and contribute in some way. This may succeed or it may fail. Like all things, we have to try or else we do not know what either we enjoy, or what we are capable of doing.</p>
<p>Adam is also capable of understanding things which other people don&#8217;t always believe he understands. All of a sudden, though, he may blurt out something (showing understanding) and people are surprised. He is capable of learning about other people. </p>
<p>Anyway, we are in the process of asking where we are able to volunteer a little. I want to see how it goes. We had one nibble from an org in Toronto. I&#8217;m hoping someone will want to give us a chance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s So Nice To Have This Time Together by Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear you are having such a nice time with Adam. I&#039;ve followed your blog for five years. You seem to have come through so much.  I hope you will share more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you are having such a nice time with Adam. I&#8217;ve followed your blog for five years. You seem to have come through so much.  I hope you will share more.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep It Simple Over the Holidays by Maddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean about surplus stuff - we have an attic and a garage full - probably ought to have a yard sale.  Mine both wanted one thing, all the others were....less preferred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean about surplus stuff &#8211; we have an attic and a garage full &#8211; probably ought to have a yard sale.  Mine both wanted one thing, all the others were&#8230;.less preferred.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Part of the Network of Give and Take by Viviane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viviane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 02:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in the individual timing.  If you feel ready to participate in such event with Adam.  Good for you!  But if you don&#039;t, it is also very OK.  Every parent has a different child and different capabilities.  Some autistic children will go to University and some others won&#039;t be able to learn to write and read.  I don&#039;t think recommending big crowds of people for every autistic children would be fair.  I believe in knowing your child and loving yourself enough to listen to him and you.  If  you feel it would be positive for both of you, go ahead, but if you hesitate, just find an other idea.  The person is way more important that these principles society wants us to follow.  Let&#039;s follow our hearts instead and find peace and happiness with our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in the individual timing.  If you feel ready to participate in such event with Adam.  Good for you!  But if you don&#8217;t, it is also very OK.  Every parent has a different child and different capabilities.  Some autistic children will go to University and some others won&#8217;t be able to learn to write and read.  I don&#8217;t think recommending big crowds of people for every autistic children would be fair.  I believe in knowing your child and loving yourself enough to listen to him and you.  If  you feel it would be positive for both of you, go ahead, but if you hesitate, just find an other idea.  The person is way more important that these principles society wants us to follow.  Let&#8217;s follow our hearts instead and find peace and happiness with our children.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Part of the Network of Give and Take by kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So great you and Adam are doing this. We have wanted to think of ways for Charlie to contribute like this too; look forward to hearing how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So great you and Adam are doing this. We have wanted to think of ways for Charlie to contribute like this too; look forward to hearing how it goes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Book Review: Challenging The Myths Of Autism by Jonathan Alderson by Irene</title>
		<link>http://www.esteeklar.com/2011/12/07/book-review-challenging-the-myths-of-autism-by-jonathan-adler/comment-page-1/#comment-23315</link>
		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 21:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!!  There is so much to accomplish and so much to properly understand.  In this day and age what makes anyone think that learning has a precise timeframe and structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo!!  There is so much to accomplish and so much to properly understand.  In this day and age what makes anyone think that learning has a precise timeframe and structure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Patience With That Egg by Estee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. And I remember at Autreat where autistic people were encouraged to make their own stim toys, many of which seem &quot;junior&quot; or strange to others. 

After writing this post, I did two neat things with Adam tonight. I asked him the question in the theatre program, &quot;What is a promise.&quot; Adam typed, &quot;a promise is a very good thing.&quot; Then we worked on Sentence Builder (an ipad app) and i video taped myself doing things that Adam could copy easier than if I was right in front of him. So we had a busy evening. Off to bed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. And I remember at Autreat where autistic people were encouraged to make their own stim toys, many of which seem &#8220;junior&#8221; or strange to others. </p>
<p>After writing this post, I did two neat things with Adam tonight. I asked him the question in the theatre program, &#8220;What is a promise.&#8221; Adam typed, &#8220;a promise is a very good thing.&#8221; Then we worked on Sentence Builder (an ipad app) and i video taped myself doing things that Adam could copy easier than if I was right in front of him. So we had a busy evening. Off to bed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Patience With That Egg by kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 23:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The baby books are a form of familiar for Adam. He uses them to comfort himself and to create order in a world that can often be overwhelming. They don’t indicate what he’s also interested in, or what he’s capable of.&quot;
Well said, as always.
Charlie still likes to watch &#039;little kid&#039; videos and hear the music and it seems he does so often for comfort and reassurance. Then he switches to rock &#039;n&#039; roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The baby books are a form of familiar for Adam. He uses them to comfort himself and to create order in a world that can often be overwhelming. They don’t indicate what he’s also interested in, or what he’s capable of.&#8221;<br />
Well said, as always.<br />
Charlie still likes to watch &#8216;little kid&#8217; videos and hear the music and it seems he does so often for comfort and reassurance. Then he switches to rock &#8216;n&#8217; roll.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Boy With The Wily Grin by Fiona Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 03:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were sort of pleased that our Autisitc son tried swearing... with the same  Fword...he did it for shock value so social skills and situations with other 9 year olds ....normal (Yay)    Not so hot that his teacher called...as he had never done it before. Not so pleased!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were sort of pleased that our Autisitc son tried swearing&#8230; with the same  Fword&#8230;he did it for shock value so social skills and situations with other 9 year olds &#8230;.normal (Yay)    Not so hot that his teacher called&#8230;as he had never done it before. Not so pleased!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Boy With The Wily Grin by Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love those giggles!!</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Boy With The Wily Grin by Madmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it!</description>
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