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	<title>Comments on: Somewhere in between: the truth and fiction behind autism and divorce rates</title>
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	<description>The Joy of Autism is about our journey with autism and our opinions about how society views it.</description>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully written.  You have shown such respect to the world around you and the risk of pigeonholing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully written.  You have shown such respect to the world around you and the risk of pigeonholing.</p>
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		<title>By: Estee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put, Stephanie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put, Stephanie.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Estee, you did a wonderful job with this touchy topic.  Raising a child with autism (or three) can be very stressful, but it does not end marriages.  Just as there are many other stressful situations and events that don&#039;t end marriages.  It&#039;s not the cause of the stress or even the stress itself, but the couple&#039;s response to the stress that matters.

The only way I can see autism as a possible cause is if the two parents want to respond to the autism differently and incompatibly, yet both feel strong enough to fight for their own way.  Again, autism itself is not the cause, but it&#039;s the spark that lit the fire that burns the house down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Estee, you did a wonderful job with this touchy topic.  Raising a child with autism (or three) can be very stressful, but it does not end marriages.  Just as there are many other stressful situations and events that don&#8217;t end marriages.  It&#8217;s not the cause of the stress or even the stress itself, but the couple&#8217;s response to the stress that matters.</p>
<p>The only way I can see autism as a possible cause is if the two parents want to respond to the autism differently and incompatibly, yet both feel strong enough to fight for their own way.  Again, autism itself is not the cause, but it&#8217;s the spark that lit the fire that burns the house down.</p>
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		<title>By: Estee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder if it&#039;s a daily agreement -- tacit or otherwise. I also don&#039;t underestimate the value of communication between parents -- divorced, separated or married.  I like to think that open communication is what holds thins together, but it might be more complicated than that.  

What I believe in, though, is chances and new opportunities to become a better parent, and a better person. Maybe there are no &quot;mistakes,&quot; only opportunities to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder if it&#8217;s a daily agreement &#8212; tacit or otherwise. I also don&#8217;t underestimate the value of communication between parents &#8212; divorced, separated or married.  I like to think that open communication is what holds thins together, but it might be more complicated than that.  </p>
<p>What I believe in, though, is chances and new opportunities to become a better parent, and a better person. Maybe there are no &#8220;mistakes,&#8221; only opportunities to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oddly, as I recently learned, a root canal is not so bad.  painless, in fact!  but that&#039;s not really why I&#039;m writing.

just wanted to note that I&#039;m not sure that stresses are always likely to create a weaker marriage.  I think it&#039;s when the stresses pull people in opposite directions, or when one member of the group causes the stress (and could end at least part of it), that things can get dicey.

People do tend to pull together in crises...  or when a situation is unavoidable and no one&#039;s fault.  But when the stress then turns into a permanent state of affairs that things get difficult.  And when the stress could actually be avoided to some degree by a not-impossible change in behavior -- when it&#039;s &quot;we&#039;re stressed because mom has turned into a research machine and therefore mom is no longer behaving like mom&quot; - then people start to feel angry.

And when that goes on for years, not days or weeks, it can get really overwhelming for the family.

A big stresser for us is that Tom really doesn&#039;t thrive in public school, and so he&#039;s mainly homeschooled.  But we&#039;re not financially able to say &quot;you quit work while we homeschool.&quot;  So...  who&#039;s work matters most?  Who arranges Tom&#039;s curriculum, finds the right inclusive settings, drives him here or there?

Since we made this choice together, it&#039;s easier.  But there are certainly days when either one of our jobs or Tom&#039;s education gets the short stick.

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oddly, as I recently learned, a root canal is not so bad.  painless, in fact!  but that&#8217;s not really why I&#8217;m writing.</p>
<p>just wanted to note that I&#8217;m not sure that stresses are always likely to create a weaker marriage.  I think it&#8217;s when the stresses pull people in opposite directions, or when one member of the group causes the stress (and could end at least part of it), that things can get dicey.</p>
<p>People do tend to pull together in crises&#8230;  or when a situation is unavoidable and no one&#8217;s fault.  But when the stress then turns into a permanent state of affairs that things get difficult.  And when the stress could actually be avoided to some degree by a not-impossible change in behavior &#8212; when it&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8217;re stressed because mom has turned into a research machine and therefore mom is no longer behaving like mom&#8221; &#8211; then people start to feel angry.</p>
<p>And when that goes on for years, not days or weeks, it can get really overwhelming for the family.</p>
<p>A big stresser for us is that Tom really doesn&#8217;t thrive in public school, and so he&#8217;s mainly homeschooled.  But we&#8217;re not financially able to say &#8220;you quit work while we homeschool.&#8221;  So&#8230;  who&#8217;s work matters most?  Who arranges Tom&#8217;s curriculum, finds the right inclusive settings, drives him here or there?</p>
<p>Since we made this choice together, it&#8217;s easier.  But there are certainly days when either one of our jobs or Tom&#8217;s education gets the short stick.</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life is hard, but I&#039;d still venture to guess that more people get divorced over money issues, family issues (like caring for elderly relatives or even NT teenagers), or basic incompatibility than over any diagnosis that a child might get.  Throughout my early years as a single mom I had never even met another single parent of even one autistic child- the 80% stat that&#039;s bandied around so carelessly is pretty ridiculous as far as I&#039;ve ever seen.  

Divorce is never easy no matter how amicable it might be, and we often can&#039;t estimate its results on our children, especially if they are non-verbal.  But it&#039;s also not always the worst choice that can be made, and two parents living happily separate are often better than 2 living unhappily together-  I wish you luck in the months and years ahead.  I don&#039;t have any doubts that you&#039;ll be able to pull it off with grace and dedication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is hard, but I&#8217;d still venture to guess that more people get divorced over money issues, family issues (like caring for elderly relatives or even NT teenagers), or basic incompatibility than over any diagnosis that a child might get.  Throughout my early years as a single mom I had never even met another single parent of even one autistic child- the 80% stat that&#8217;s bandied around so carelessly is pretty ridiculous as far as I&#8217;ve ever seen.  </p>
<p>Divorce is never easy no matter how amicable it might be, and we often can&#8217;t estimate its results on our children, especially if they are non-verbal.  But it&#8217;s also not always the worst choice that can be made, and two parents living happily separate are often better than 2 living unhappily together-  I wish you luck in the months and years ahead.  I don&#8217;t have any doubts that you&#8217;ll be able to pull it off with grace and dedication.</p>
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		<title>By: pixiemama</title>
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		<dc:creator>pixiemama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Thank you. It&#039;s hard. It&#039;s hard beyond words. But autism simply exposes the cracks. What we do about those cracks is up to us, as married individuals. I can tell you this - I never thought this would be my marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Thank you. It&#8217;s hard. It&#8217;s hard beyond words. But autism simply exposes the cracks. What we do about those cracks is up to us, as married individuals. I can tell you this &#8211; I never thought this would be my marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this provocative and thoughtful post about some very complicated and difficult issues. And thank you for quoting me---I reread the passage you quoted and it all still rings very true, the reality of how marriage can get pushed aside in the heat of the moment of caring for a child, however much the two people in the marriage love and care for each other. Not to mention that fact that, due to the difficulties of finding childcare for our son Charlie, we&#039;ve tended to rely a lot more on each other for emotional support, and _that_ alone can put a strain on things.

So many challenges and, yes, complications, but I still, too, think of it all as a gift.

Warmest wishes to you and Adam in the new year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this provocative and thoughtful post about some very complicated and difficult issues. And thank you for quoting me&#8212;I reread the passage you quoted and it all still rings very true, the reality of how marriage can get pushed aside in the heat of the moment of caring for a child, however much the two people in the marriage love and care for each other. Not to mention that fact that, due to the difficulties of finding childcare for our son Charlie, we&#8217;ve tended to rely a lot more on each other for emotional support, and _that_ alone can put a strain on things.</p>
<p>So many challenges and, yes, complications, but I still, too, think of it all as a gift.</p>
<p>Warmest wishes to you and Adam in the new year.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been following your blog for about four years and you have always been an inspiration to me. I agree with Madmother that life is hard. Estee, thank you for sharing your life with us. You come out shining!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been following your blog for about four years and you have always been an inspiration to me. I agree with Madmother that life is hard. Estee, thank you for sharing your life with us. You come out shining!</p>
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		<title>By: Madmother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madmother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it - life is hard! I hate it when people go the &quot;poor you&quot; route... with anything. Everyone faces issues in their family, marriage, having a child with autism is merely one of them.

I am so grateful to have my partner in life striding along beside me, hands joined. Coming up to fourteen years of a marriage which we work on and try to nurture every day. Even with a son with ASD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it &#8211; life is hard! I hate it when people go the &#8220;poor you&#8221; route&#8230; with anything. Everyone faces issues in their family, marriage, having a child with autism is merely one of them.</p>
<p>I am so grateful to have my partner in life striding along beside me, hands joined. Coming up to fourteen years of a marriage which we work on and try to nurture every day. Even with a son with ASD.</p>
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		<title>By: The Muser</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Muser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a gorgeous post! And how awful, awful, awful that people think of autism as worse than a root canal. Holy crap. 

I love your ability to be clear on so many conflicting things: yes, raising a child is hard, especially a disabled child; yes, marriage is hard; and, yes, child-rearing puts stress on marriages, as does a whole host of other human events. I love that you can write about the difficulties of life without copping out and blaming Adam or autism. Our culture sucks at supporting mothers in general, and is even worse at supporting those with disabilities and those living with the disabled. How much we would all benefit if our culture could learn to shift from its focus on making money and consumerism and productivity to, instead, loving and supporting and understand the many many diverse human beings who make up our world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a gorgeous post! And how awful, awful, awful that people think of autism as worse than a root canal. Holy crap. </p>
<p>I love your ability to be clear on so many conflicting things: yes, raising a child is hard, especially a disabled child; yes, marriage is hard; and, yes, child-rearing puts stress on marriages, as does a whole host of other human events. I love that you can write about the difficulties of life without copping out and blaming Adam or autism. Our culture sucks at supporting mothers in general, and is even worse at supporting those with disabilities and those living with the disabled. How much we would all benefit if our culture could learn to shift from its focus on making money and consumerism and productivity to, instead, loving and supporting and understand the many many diverse human beings who make up our world.</p>
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		<title>By: Niksmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niksmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Estee. So apropos as I&#039;ve been reading posts elsewhere written by women whose marriages may be in trouble and the issue *seems* to be about the child&#039;s disability.

Wishing you and Adam a very wonderful new year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Estee. So apropos as I&#8217;ve been reading posts elsewhere written by women whose marriages may be in trouble and the issue *seems* to be about the child&#8217;s disability.</p>
<p>Wishing you and Adam a very wonderful new year.</p>
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